Wie geht das hier?
Kann mir mal jemand Friendi.ca näher bringen? Ich steige da noch nicht so ganz durch. Ich hänge mal einen #Screenshot an. Vielleicht gibt es jemand, der mir den Ausschnitt mal erläutert.
mögen das
Idle.Hirn mag das.
teilten dies erneut
Idle.Hirn, #neuhier und Berdur Donnerherz haben dies geteilt.
If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:
➡️ fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-ide…
The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.
Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.
Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.
Mastodon.social is not a good way to join Mastodon. If you’re already on it, you might want to move your account to a different Mastodon server. | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.tips
mögen das
Jools und GuettisKnippse mögen das.
teilten dies erneut
Jools, Linda🌱, Augenstern, Svenja📞7852, Karl Theodor, GEDANKENTaenze und Yewa haben dies geteilt.
You can always move back to your previous server, as long as you don't delete the old account there is no time limit on going back 🙂
You just do exactly the same transfer process but with the servers swapped round.
Tiny, all the others are tiny percentages by comparison.
Mastodon.social is far far larger than any other server which is why I've mentioned it in particular (plus also it is owned by the Mastodon developers which causes further dangers if it gets too large).
EDIT: I did the maths, mas.to is 1.03% of the active Fedi.
p.s. The guide linked in the original post answers lots of questions about this topic and gives advice on where to move, how to move etc.
Don't just join a random server though, try to choose one from a curated list of reliable servers such as joinmastodon.org/servers or fedi.garden
There are lots of reliable servers on here that have been running for years, for example you can see some good servers listed by founding date at fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-…
franken.social – Franggn im Fediverse
Allmächd'na! Franggn is im Fediversum. Fei schee.Mastodon hosted on franken.social
It makes sense to have a nominated "default" server where people can just sign up without thinking too hard.
It doesn't make sense to have the largest server as the default server though 😞
They should be rotating a default server from a pool of reliable servers, so that the growth is spread out instead of concentrated in one place.
This is what mastodon.social used to do in the old days, they would close m.s and direct people to sign up on a specific other server.
M.S should voluntarily close to new accounts until it drops to under 10%
@NorthantsGreens for that, you need a pool of reliable servers.
Hint: "I like my server" is not a proof of reliability.
Would it make sense for the party to run their own server which only has official accounts?
@gbargoud
Yes you are right, but we have asked numerous times when they will get on the #Fediverse and they did mention that they did a test server internally, but gave a vague response of "we decided not to take things further" which is basically saying we won't get enough engagement. Or they say "they have a small team" but then contradict themselves by joining bluesky.
Even when one applies for a job or offers to help volenterally, they will still ignore or find a reason not to.
It's really easy to run your own server if you use a managed hosting service such as @mastohost or @Cloud68 or @fedihost or many others. They do all the techy stuff, you just pay a small monthly fee that includes everything.
If they don't want their own server and don't have time for more platforms, there are social media services which let organisations post to many platforms at once including Mastodon:
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@gbargoud @mastohost @Cloud68 @fedihost
Oh you're 100% right. But it's like pulling teeth.
We have mentioned numerous times on such options and that Mastodon is widely supported on social media scheduling tools such as buffer which we use.
But national greens 1, haven't told anyone what tools they use, so it's much harder for us to direct them and 2 when we have asked we get excuses instead action.
You can't lead a horse to water and make it drink.
I think expressional.social and mstdn.dk have good reputations?
They are listed as complying with the "covenant" for technical reliability and responsible moderation.
Mastodon server hosted in Copenhagen, Denmark.
Mastodon server hosted in Copenhagen, Denmark, by a dane. All languages are welcome, Federated with other Danish servers. Focus on safety, transparency and security.Mastodon hosted on expressional.social
Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.
With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…
Transferring your Mastodon account to another server | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.tips
25%? Kinda explains why there's so many arseholes there
Please don't spread them out!
That is a really good step, and total respect to Eugen for taking it 👍 But it doesn't by itself solve the centralisation issue.
By far the biggest server, the official apps, the official site, the trademarks on the word "Mastodon" would still all be in one entity, which makes it a target.
Even non-profits can end up going down the toilet if they become dependent on big tech (e.g. Mozilla when they became dependent on Google). Mastodon hasn't done this so far though 🤞
I disagree, they aren't harder to defederate (not that I'm defederating with mastodon.social).
I've heard of several instances defederating with them, though. It's not the end of the world if you do.
They're harder to defederate because a server's members will lose more followers if they do.
For example, it can cause problems for people who use the Fedi to connect with freelance work or paid gigs.
So, let us respect mastodon.social for their groundbreaking work, even though many small instances are "better" for the Fediverse as such.
If I defederate mastodon.social most active accounts will probably leave climatejustice.social, because otherwise they lose up to 25% of accounts they interact with.
If I don't block mastodon.social I'll continue having to put about the same amount of time, maybe more, in moderating their accounts, than their whole mod team does. But they get payed by Mastodon GmbH, I don't.
Servers with more than 2000 monthly active members should close registrations automatically.
Or Mastodon should pay every Fediverse moderator a living wage.
I landed on mindly.social when I joined and it's a great place.
Here's what the landing page says about this space:
"About Mindly.Social
Mindly.Social aims to be a friendly, non-topic specific community focused on spreading positivity, expanding your knowledge and experiences, and just being plain old happy on social media for once."
I'm new to Mastodon this week and I self-hosted a single-user instance. Glad to hear I'm helping protect the Fediverse, as well as having lots of fun theming and customising! 💜 💫
thanks for talking about this. the community needs to be actively involved in keeping a network decentralized if they want to reap the benefits of decentralization.
Good thing moving to another server can even be done on here. Things look so bleak in this regard outside the Fediverse. (bluesky might have this functionality but no one runs servers other than bsky.social)
I'm not advising people to sign up on a random server. I'm linking them to well-run servers on curated lists that have certain standards of reliability and moderation.
These good alternatives have mostly been around for years:
fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-…
Servers sorted by founding year | Fedi.Garden
Highlighting nice servers on Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.garden
Followers (people who follow you) is automatic because they already followed you on the old account.
As far as I remember, follows (people you follow) will mean the person gets a new follow request from you if they have follow requests switched on.
In transfers you mean?
Media is attached to posts, so it stays in the same place as the posts do. If you transfer your account, your old media will stay on the old posts on the old server.
As long as you don't delete the old account, the old posts aren't orphaned or deleted. They remain as before, but clicking the author's link will redirect them to your new account.
My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.
More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.
As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.
And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.
You've done a two-part reply which doesn't address any of the reasons given in the original post?
"And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko."
I think you must be confusing me with someone else? I have never attacked Eugen.
I have criticised some of his decisions, and praised other decisions. I've never made it personal about him.
He has contributed more than any other person to making Mastodon and that's an amazing achievement. But not every decision is good.
"sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months"
That's just not true, most of the alternative servers I'm recommending have been working reliably for years:
fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-…
Servers sorted by founding year | Fedi.Garden
Highlighting nice servers on Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.garden
Mastodon.social used to regularly close to new members and redirect people to register on another long-running reliable server. Maybe they could go back to doing this in some form or another?
More and more I see the value in running your own instance. I haven't tried with the Mastodon software yet, but #gotosocial was shockingly easy (for someone with a fair amount of linux experience anyhow) to get online in a tiny VPS.
I set it up to collect online writing I wanted to save while deleting Blog, FB, Twitter, LJ, Reddit, etc. Mostly longer-format stuff, and I was able to set post length to 12000 to accommodate some of the larger pieces.
We knew it would be harder to defed the longer things went on so we just cut the cord and never looked back. Defederating m.s cuts down on administration work by at least 40% in my experience, but I'm sympathetic to servers that can't because they have members whose incomes depend on being seen by more users :( It sucks that other instances have to do m.s's moderation for them, basically.
In addition to the many good reasons you listed to stay away from m.s, the fact that it is big enough to be an attractive sales prospect adds to the risk that users will have to move anyway if Gargron hands the keys to someone objectionable. We've seen this happen with every social media platform ever and I hope not to see it on the fedi, but the bigger and more valuable m.s gets the likelier it becomes.
I was going to start on an art mast but i didn't want to post my art because I hear fedi hasn't been good about protecting artists from scraping.
As a new user I wasn't sure if I was able to see the rest of mastedon, I kind of get how it works a little better now
If you're going to move, do it early. It's easy to move but you can't move the posts you've already made. So you lose your history.
Feature request. Migrate your history when moving servers.
As long as you don't delete the old account, the old posts don't disappear. They stay on the old server and redirect people to your new account if people click on the author's name.
There should be a registry where all instances automatically register on setup, which checks in regular intervals if the instances still exist.
This is not rocket science.
Private, non-federating instances could opt out on installation and later as well.
@d
There are sites which list vast numbers of Fediverse instances, but they're not good for new people because there's no indication about an instance's reliability or safety.
Human-curated lists that have specific requirements for reliability and moderation tend to be more useful for new people, I think?
That's definitely the reason, but there's a really easy solution: they could suggest a different server instead of the largest one.
There are lots of reliable servers that have good track records going back years, they could have a pool of them and regularly rotate which one is suggested to new people.
This is what they used to do ages ago before there was an official app, they would regularly close mastodon.social and tell people to sign up on a specific other server.
I concur! Fully intend to move along but haven't had the time to hunt down a new home. Soon!
I will hate to lose my early "joined on" date, and the getting the early experience for brand-new features.
But I should do it and maybe move somewhat often so I retain familiarity with how to do it, so I'm easily mobile.
I did a migrate for a less-used biz identity and it was very smooth and painless, I must say.
@luca
I totally understand, and it's fine to direct new people to a "default" server so they don't get overwhelmed with choice.
The problem is if that default is the largest server, because it centralises the network and puts it in danger.
If JoinMastodon and the official apps could direct new people to another reliable server (and then rotate this default regularly) this would solve most of the problems.
That kind of default rotation is how Nextcloud's onboarding works, for example.
Mastodon.social also shadow bans political views that are antigenocidal
They do not tolerate support of the Palestinian people or exposure of the genocide and you will lose your account and you will lose all your followers and people will not be able to follow you from there even without defederation
The instances listed on joinmastodon.org/servers and fedi.garden have promised to give three months notice if they ever decide to shut down (plus also daily backups, at least two admins and responsible moderation).
I've also got a list of good instances by year of foundation at fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-…
Nothing's ever guaranteed, but these are perhaps good starting points?
There's a complete step by step guide here: fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…
Transferring your Mastodon account to another server | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.tips
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mögen das
Tuxi ⁂ mag das.
Yewa
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Dort werden vermutlich einige Fragen geklärt.
Ansonsten gerne spezifische Fragen stellen. 😊
Yewa mag das.
Tuxi ⁂
Als Antwort auf Tuxi ⁂ • • •Ach ja, und eine "interne" Hilfe gibt es auch noch: friendica.io/help
Yewa mag das.